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Yes, This Still Happens

Small KY church votes to ban interracial couples from joining the church

Sounds all too familiar.

I hear and read, "This isn't about prejudice. This isn't about homophobia" all the time.

YES. IT. IS.

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droxy
Dec. 4th, 2011 05:37 pm (UTC)
Most of the church members left after that BS.
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 4th, 2011 06:15 pm (UTC)
I didn't see that. I saw that most walked out on the vote.

Also, the Free Will Baptist denomination has ruled that this cannot stand, as it violates their doctrine.
veronica_rich
Dec. 5th, 2011 02:39 am (UTC)
So far as I know, as long as they're enjoying a federal and state tax break, they are obliged to not violate federal and state laws pertaining to discrimination.

I mean, they can start paying taxes, if they like. Gosh, if we could collect taxes from all the churches who enjoy that exemption, but still think they have the right to dictate law and public policy, think of how much more we'd have as a society for health care, public education, and other social programs.
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 5th, 2011 11:35 am (UTC)
The separation of church and state comes into play here. Churches are free to discriminate against anyone.

Only when they are getting government funds for a charity they operate does that become null and void - Catholic adoption charities, for example, cannot refuse to allow an interracial couple to adopt a child, unless they are operating exclusive of government funds, which is not usually the case.

However, this church is not independent, and the Free Will Baptist denomination has said this cannot stand because it violates the laws of their church.

Edited at 2011-12-05 11:37 am (UTC)
veronica_rich
Dec. 5th, 2011 05:25 pm (UTC)
If we had a real, true separation of church and state any longer, I'd be inclined to agree with you on the basis personally as well as legally (in which you may be correct; I still think a case could be made for religious doctrine not overriding basic federal civil rights). We haven't, for a very long time, and part of me can't help thinking it's time churches start reaping what they've sowed - or rather, started paying for the undue political influence they've enjoyed for far too long.
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 5th, 2011 05:57 pm (UTC)
I completely agree that churches have zero business in politics, and any church that wishes to use their influence and their finances in that way should be paying taxes.
veronica_rich
Dec. 5th, 2011 07:27 pm (UTC)
I sure wish there was some way to let the politically active churches know that we as an incorporated political public allow them to exist within our construct, not the other way around. But as long as we have politicians too scared to admit they're anything other than two steps from Jesus's right hand, or berated for not including God in a Thanksgiving speech, well ...

Anyway, it's good to know the congregation and management as a whole is not putting up with this particular situation. Just to get back on topic!
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 6th, 2011 12:28 am (UTC)
It's pretty ironic, considering the right wing is always spewing scare stories about how the Muslims are going to invade our government and corporate America and take it over from the inside.

Clearly, someone else has done the infiltrating.
snowywolfowl
Dec. 5th, 2011 10:33 am (UTC)
This is the type of stuff that makes me "respectful, but wary" of religion.
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 5th, 2011 11:32 am (UTC)
I have lost much respect for religion, but not for most people who practice it.
finarfiniel
Dec. 5th, 2011 06:43 pm (UTC)
The 1960s called; they want their racial discrimination tactics back.

This blows my mind.
bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 6th, 2011 12:29 am (UTC)
LOL, exactly right!
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bonnie_halfelvn
Dec. 6th, 2011 03:35 am (UTC)
Amazing, isn't it?
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